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Post by NEWSBOT on Apr 16, 2023 9:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by stilicho on Apr 18, 2023 1:30:44 GMT -5
Is there even such a thing as a "basic tenet" of Christianity? It's been one score and two thousand years and they haven't even figured out whether the central character ever existed at all. Sweet homoerotic kissing scenes though. "Mmmmmm--more Gethsemane!" |
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Post by Johnny B. Orka on Apr 18, 2023 8:32:11 GMT -5
Is there even such a thing as a "basic tenet" of Christianity? Yes. Honor your Creator, and Love your neighbor as yourself. The Golden Mean. Duh. |
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Post by stilicho on Apr 25, 2023 8:48:36 GMT -5
Is there even such a thing as a "basic tenet" of Christianity? Yes. Honor your Creator, and Love your neighbor as yourself. The Golden Mean. Duh. The "golden rule" is not a tenet of Christianity. It appears in almost exactly the same form in Sanskrit texts, Egyptian papyruses and Hellenistic works such as those of Thales who lived five centuries prior to the alleged existence of Jesus.
It's a nearly universal moral judgement based on the universal need for reciprocity.
Honour your Creator? Not exclusive. Odin demanded sacrifices too. So did countless other deities who weren't from the Christianity coaching tree.
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Post by The Man from the Mountain. on Apr 26, 2023 8:54:28 GMT -5
Yes. Honor your Creator, and Love your neighbor as yourself. The Golden Mean. Duh. The "golden rule" is not a tenet of Christianity. It appears in almost exactly the same form in Sanskrit texts, Egyptian papyruses and Hellenistic works such as those of Thales who lived five centuries prior to the alleged existence of Jesus.
It's a nearly universal moral judgement based on the universal need for reciprocity.
Honour your Creator? Not exclusive. Odin demanded sacrifices too. So did countless other deities who weren't from the Christianity coaching tree.
No shit Sherlock. Ony a child would believe Judaism and Christianity didn't borrow heavily from other philosophies/religions. However, this doesn't mean these principals are not basic tenets of the Christian faith. Forgiveness is another tenet of Christianity. Jews and Muslims are more an eye for an eye. |
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Post by Johnny B. Orka on Apr 26, 2023 9:23:27 GMT -5
The "Golden Rule" is just a part of the "Golden Mean" However, one can find the "Golden Mean" taught throughout the Gospels.
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Post by Gender Bender on Apr 30, 2023 8:35:45 GMT -5
For the 'basic tenets' you have to trawl through hundreds of years of Ecumenical Councils where a bunch of schizophrenics debated with each other how best to make shit up in order to benefit themselves and the power of their faction at the expense of everyone else.
Christianity = horseshit.
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Post by The Plucky Brit on May 1, 2023 3:43:02 GMT -5
Except for those pesky crusades, yeah, Christianity has always been full of forgiveness.
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Post by Pat the Poet on May 1, 2023 7:32:28 GMT -5
That's why it's called a tenet and not a practice.
There is a higher good we can all strive for.
That doesn't mean we will attain it.
Forgive the corruption of the Church.
The heart of the matter is your own soul.
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Post by stilicho on May 3, 2023 4:14:58 GMT -5
The "Golden Rule" is just a part of the "Golden Mean" However, one can find the "Golden Mean" taught throughout the Gospels. I'll help you out if you need it. The basic tenet of Christianity is the literal reality of the resurrection of the Jesus character. That's it.
Everything else is window dressing. Here's why.
If the Jesus character is just a god then the literal resurrection is meaningless or phony. A god can do anything so bringing itself back to life is puffery.
But if the Jesus character is purely human then literal resurrection is impossible or at least rigorously denied by the simple fact it's never happened before or since and the one in a billions long shot is insufficient basis for a religion or even a good ghost story.
So there's your answer about the basic literal tenet of Christianity. You're welcome. Place your tithe in the collection plate as it slithers past.
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Post by stilicho on May 3, 2023 4:30:42 GMT -5
The "golden rule" is not a tenet of Christianity. It appears in almost exactly the same form in Sanskrit texts, Egyptian papyruses and Hellenistic works such as those of Thales who lived five centuries prior to the alleged existence of Jesus.
It's a nearly universal moral judgement based on the universal need for reciprocity.
Honour your Creator? Not exclusive. Odin demanded sacrifices too. So did countless other deities who weren't from the Christianity coaching tree.
No shit Sherlock. Ony a child would believe Judaism and Christianity didn't borrow heavily from other philosophies/religions. However, this doesn't mean these principals are not basic tenets of the Christian faith. Forgiveness is another tenet of Christianity. Jews and Muslims are more an eye for an eye. The Jesus character in certain speeches recommends taking slaps to the face (horrible advice in any case) but more importantly in the same speech says you should gouge out your own eye instead of risking retaliation for violating one of his arbitrary rules. He approves self-mutilation which is not exactly what you'd expect from a deity concerned about any sort of forgiveness.
But you already knew that.
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Post by Big Brown Eddy on May 4, 2023 3:03:43 GMT -5
Clearly The Bible is dangerous in the hands of a Moron.
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Post by Johnny B. Orka on May 4, 2023 22:23:47 GMT -5
The "Golden Rule" is just a part of the "Golden Mean" However, one can find the "Golden Mean" taught throughout the Gospels. I'll help you out if you need it. The basic tenet of Christianity is the literal reality of the resurrection of the Jesus character. That's it.
Everything else is window dressing. Here's why.
If the Jesus character is just a god then the literal resurrection is meaningless or phony. A god can do anything so bringing itself back to life is puffery.
But if the Jesus character is purely human then literal resurrection is impossible or at least rigorously denied by the simple fact it's never happened before or since and the one in a billions long shot is insufficient basis for a religion or even a good ghost story.
So there's your answer about the basic literal tenet of Christianity. You're welcome. Place your tithe in the collection plate as it slithers past.
Are you FKN Kidding me? What a bloviating drunken Moron. The eternity of the soul and resurrection of a god or anyone from the dead is far from a concept entirely endemic to Christianity. Wasn't that your test of a tenet, and Why "The Golden Rule isn't a Christian tenet. originality? Do you even know what a tenet is? |
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Post by Emperor Constantine on May 14, 2023 2:55:00 GMT -5
The idea of eternity existed long before the fable of Jesus. Indeed, the way it is used in Christianity is very Jewish in nature (i.e. used to control and manipulate people).
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Post by Jack Rag on May 14, 2023 12:46:03 GMT -5
Clearly The Bible is dangerous in the hands of a Moron. Hey, are you referring to me!? |
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Post by Big Brown Eddy on May 14, 2023 20:02:09 GMT -5
Clearly The Bible is dangerous in the hands of a Moron. Hey, are you referring to me!? Yessir |
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Post by Sorce's Oar on May 15, 2023 15:28:22 GMT -5
I've been in some very dark places. inexplicably unextractable.
You know your roll! Need I Name Names
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Post by sicklecelarmenia on May 17, 2023 12:04:31 GMT -5
I've been in some very dark places. inexplicably unextractable. You know your roll! Need I Name Names No. Please don’t!! |
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Post by stilicho on Jun 15, 2023 4:33:44 GMT -5
I'll help you out if you need it. The basic tenet of Christianity is the literal reality of the resurrection of the Jesus character. That's it.
Everything else is window dressing. Here's why.
If the Jesus character is just a god then the literal resurrection is meaningless or phony. A god can do anything so bringing itself back to life is puffery.
But if the Jesus character is purely human then literal resurrection is impossible or at least rigorously denied by the simple fact it's never happened before or since and the one in a billions long shot is insufficient basis for a religion or even a good ghost story.
So there's your answer about the basic literal tenet of Christianity. You're welcome. Place your tithe in the collection plate as it slithers past.
Are you FKN Kidding me? What a bloviating drunken Moron. The eternity of the soul and resurrection of a god or anyone from the dead is far from a concept entirely endemic to Christianity. Wasn't that your test of a tenet, and Why "The Golden Rule isn't a Christian tenet. originality? Do you even know what a tenet is? I'm guessing that, as everyone, you don't believe in the literal and physical resurrection of a mere mortal no matter what their claims were to divinity. Welcome to the club. |
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Post by Grizzly Adams on Jun 15, 2023 15:39:40 GMT -5
Well, I guess that literally if they were physically resurrected, they wouldn't be a merely mortal, whether it contradicts people's ideas or not.
It's probably easier to just believe than bothering to come up with a bunch reasoning and stuff.
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